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      CommentAuthorDominero
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007 editado
     # 1
    Leia este articulo y me pregunto si alguien tiene estadisticas sobre el mercado online en español que logicamente paga menos que en ingles. Cuantos visitantes reciben las empresas 100% online que desarrollan en español y que facturan ingresos libres superiores a los digamos $10.000 por mes ($120.000 por año)? cuantos las de $100.000 por mes? -dominios en español- sea la area que sea (juegos, porno, turismo, etc.) total de visitantes Vs. ingresos

    Three ways to build an online media business to $50m in revenue

    As a venture capitalist, I’m interested in investing in companies that could be big one day, that could get to at least $50m in revenue.

    Here are three ways to get to $50m in revenue as an online media business; indulge me in some math:

    1. Be a site with a broad reach (say general social networking, communications, news). At large scale, without a great deal of targeting possible, a startup’s “run of site” or “run of network” advertising might be able to get to the $1 RPM range (Revenue per thousand impressions, including CPM, CPC, and CPA models). To get to $50m in revenue you would need 50 billion pageviews in a year, or just over 4 billion per month. According to Comscore, Bebo had the 10th most Pageviews in the US in Janurary 1007, with 3.4bn, so you would need to be bigger than that.

    2. Be a site with demographic targeting (say a Latino portal, or a sports site (targeted at men) or a social network targeted at baby boomers). Although in TV and in magazines, demographic targeting can generate double digit CPMs, online at scale, RPMs tend to be in the low single digit range. Lets assume a $5 RPM. To get to $50m in revenue you would need 10 billion pageviews in a year, or just over 800 million per month. According to Comscore, Microsoft had the 22nd most Pageviews in the US in January 2007, with 792 million, so you would need to be bigger than that. [Microsoft isn’t a demographically targeted site - i just use it as a comparison point for overall traffic size.]

    3. Be a site with endemic advertising opportunities (say a site about movies that movie studios will want to advertise on, or a site about cars that auto manufacturers will want to advertise on, or a site about travel that hotels and airlines and online travel agencies will want to advertise on). If you have a highly targeted audience that is interested in buying a specific product, you can command RPM’s well into the double digits. Lets assume a $20 RPM. To get to $50m in revenue you would need 2.5 billion pageviews in a year, or just over 200 million per month. According to Comscore, Adelphia.com had the 125th most Pageviews in the US in January 2007, with 198 million, so you would need to be bigger than that. [Adelphia isn’t an endemically targeted site - i just use it as a comparison point for overall traffic size.]

    Admittedly, all these Comscore #s are US only, and all businesses will have international traffic as well, but the principle still holds.

    Which do you think is easiest?


    http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/three-ways-to-build-an-online-media-business-to-50m-in-revenue/DominiosIDN.com ||
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      CommentAuthorDominero
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
     # 2
    Este es su segundo post al respecto.

    Since my earlier post on “Three ways to build an online media business to $50m in revenues” was well received, I thought I’d examine the e-commerce industry as well.

    The margin structure in most (physical) ecommerce businesses is dramatically different from that of online media businesses. Whereas online media businesses can enjoy gross margins of upwards of 90%, and net margins (at scale) of 50% or higher, many ecommerce businesses have gross margins in the 20-40% range and net margins (at scale) in the 5-10% range. As a result, ecommerce companies have to grow to a much bigger top line to achieve the same value. We’ll target $500m in revenue to get to net income in the same range as a $50m revenue online media business.

    There are three ways that an ecommerce company can get to this scale:

    1. Build up $500m in sales in a single vertical. You’ll need to ensure that the vertical that you’re addressing is large enough in online sales to accommodate your size - books, music, consumer electronics, shoes and groceries are all good examples. You’ll likely need to be number one in your category, which implies industry leading cost structures. You’ll probably be holding inventory and operating multiple distribution centers, dealing with returns and generally operating a very large scale business that gives you certain margin advantages because you’re one of the largest retail channels for your suppliers.

    You’re probably able to spend on building a brand (vs performance based marketing only) and you likely think about customer lifetime value. Hence you may be willing to pay more to acquire a customer than you’ll realize from your first transaction since you sell a product that is bought frequently. As a result, you obsess over customer service because you need your customers to have a great experience and have confidence and recall to buy from you again in the future - ideally by typing your URL in directly into their browser.

    $500m in a single category is a lot. In 2005, according to Internet Retailer, only four pureplay ecommerce companies exceeded $500m in online revenues (Amazon, Newegg), Overstock and Netflix. The remaining 22 companies who had sales over $500m online were very large multi-channel retailers like Office Depot, Gap, Dell, Circuit City and Walmart.

    Other companies who likely have already reached this revenue level since then, or will soon, include companies like Zappos, Freshdirect, Drugstore.com and Buy.com

    2. Build up $50-100m in sales across each of 10-5 verticals. This could be by being a smaller player in a larger category (such as the verticals discussed above), but you’re likely number one in a smaller category. Say Ski gear, nutirtional supplements, autoparts or power tools; smaller categories than books or shoes, but still pretty big. (Note - the links are to examples of companies that are at or could get to $100m in sales, but they are not parts of companies with multiple verticals each doing $100m in sales).

    Since in many cases there are not that many synergies across categories (little or no ability to leverage supplier relationships for example) you may be a result of a rollup to get to critical scale. You may see some ability to leverage your distribution infrastructure, but in many cases the pick, pack and ship needs of different products are quite different and may not support shared infrastructure (small vials of pills looks very different from aftermarket auto parts). You likely hold inventory and operate your own distribution centers, but if you are in a category with large and unwieldy items that often get built to order, you may be able to dropship from your manufacturers.

    In 2005, according to Internet Retailer, only 155 companies exceeded $50m in online revenues, and only 45 were pure play etailers, including Blue Nile, Redenvelope.com, Shoebuy and Furniture.com. However, there are a number of companies who are taking this approach, including Musician’s Friend, Provide Commerce/ Liberty Media, and Blue Lava

    3. Build up less than $5m in sales in each of 100+ categories. According to Internet Retailer, there were 479 ecommerce companies with sales over $5m in 2005, including Batteries.com, Junonia (plus sized activewear for women), iGourmet, artbeads.com and thinkgeek.com. As you can see, even relatively small niches can sustain $5m in sales. You may be able to rely on your manufacturers to drop ship, and you may need lower levels of dedicated resources against each category with less depth of industry merchandising expertise.

    Rather than building a brand, you can rely more on performance based marketing, particularly paid and organic search and shopping engines. You may not even need to be number one in your verticals - if they are big enough you can still win some share of the market to get to $5m.

    What is hard is getting to this level of sales across so many verticals. To be able to do this you need a level of shared technology and processes that can be applied across many stores. Winning becomes less about any one store, and more about applying best practices across all the stores. The challenge is in being able to enter a category cost effectively, and to run a store against low volume in a very low cost way. Processes and cost control become paramount because any sub optimal practices get magnified across 100 stores. Although no one has hit $500m in revenues through this approach yet, there are a number of companies who are taking a shot at this approach, including Mercantila (a Lightspeed portfolio company)CSN Stores, Netshops, Niche Retail, and others.

    All these models are viable. As in most cases, the first $20m in revenues are the hardest! I’d love to hear from people on any of these paths.


    http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/03/16/three-ways-to-build-an-ecommerce-business-to-500m-in-revenues/DominiosIDN.com ||
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      CommentAuthorCorso
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
     # 3
    Cuando tenga una web que facture $10,000/mes te lo digo. :smash::: el roce hace el dominio ::
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      CommentAuthorPabloD
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
     # 4
    Quitandole un cero a todos los numeros, es posible encontrar empresa/sitios que generen esos niveles de revenue...Labrador Retriever | Perros Pastor Aleman | Caniche Toy | Sudafrica 2010
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      CommentAuthorTolosa
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
     # 5
    Dominero date cuenta que en españa estamos lo que se dice empezando hacer un poco de ruido , no dudo que en muy poco tiempo existan muchas empresas que lleguen a esas cifras...
    Salu2
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      CommentAuthorDominero
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007 editado
     # 6
    Por ej. el otro dia me preguntaba cuantas visitas y ingresos estaran obteniendo los que tienen los networks de blogs como Hypertextual.com o Weblogssl.com

    Por ej. Weblogssl.com comenta sobre el numero de visitantes que recibieron en febrero en este post

    Cuantos ingresos obtendran de esos casi 5 millones de visitantes unicos o 21.342.004 páginas vistas que recibieron en febrero? En tanto son blogs en español que me parece debe generar menos. Cuantos miles de dolares generaran por mes esos visitantes? :confuso:

    Un mes más toca informar de las cifras de tráfico de los blogs del grupo. Este mes, que como recordamos todos los febreros, tiene un 10% menos de días, hemos llegado a algo más de 5 millones de usuarios únicos (5.055.606 exactamente); un 7% menos que durante el mes de enero y cuatro veces los de hace un año. Hemos hecho un total de 21.342.004 páginas vistas, un 5% menos que en enero y 3,8 veces los niveles de hace un año.

    Por blogs las mayores subidas han sido para Bebés y más y Trendencias, mientras que las mayores caídas han sido las de Xataka, Vidaextra y Applesfera (esta última normal después del subidón en enero por el keynote de Steve Jobs).

    A continuación los datos detallados. Este mes hemos dejado de mostrar los datos de visitas que nos parecen menos relevantes que los de usuarios únicos y páginas vistas.


    dsd

    sdsderDominiosIDN.com ||
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      CommentAuthorCorso
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007
     # 7
    Lo malo es que ninguna de esas redes da datos de ingresos.:: el roce hace el dominio ::
    • CommentAuthorkrizg
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007 editado
     # 8
    Con una de mis reds de paginas yo tengo poquito menos de unicos, pero poco menos del doble de paginas vistas que ellos.
    Al contrario de ellos yo no pondria una lista de todas las paginas que forman parte del network. Pero si les podria decir que enero y febrero fueron buenos meses, cantidades se preguntan? No se si ponerlo o no. Seguro me cuestionarian, o no? Me proyectaria como "presumido"? Pedirian pruebas? Quizas un dia de datos concretos en uno de mis blogs.
    Solo les puedo decir que si se puede hacer dinero con paginas en castellano, fuera del sector de juegos, apuestas, y sexo. No mucho ni para hacerse millonario de un dia a otro, pero si se puede hacer. Ademas tomando en cuenta que yo no "monetize" mis paginas al 100% ni de forma activa, en marzo las toque casi nada, tanto en contenido como en optimizacion para buscadores y para generar ingresos.

    Alguien que sepa del tema y quiera ayudarme a exprimirlas mas?Internet, Dinero, Tecnología, Tendencias, Dominios en fin…
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      CommentAuthorDie Beste
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007
     # 9
    Mis cuentas actuales son las siguientes: a mi me da 0,01 de dolar cada visita de promedio, ojo, no clic ni visitante ni pagina vista, es un promedio por visita, digamos que general para mis sitios conocidos, sin contar otros que estan en construccion o sin publicidad. Asi que calculando lo de mi promedio al numero de visitas de ellos, debian haber ganado poco mas de 50.000 dolares
    No me pregunten como llego a mi numero, es una constante que he encontrado y me da numeros bastante acertados entre ingresos x visitas y no se si es aplicable a todos los sitios. además. estoy sguro que es españa adsense paga mas que los clics pauperrimos de amlat :sad:Offline
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      CommentAuthorCorso
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007 editado
     # 10
    Posted By: krizgcantidades se preguntan? No se si ponerlo o no. Seguro me cuestionarian, o no? Me proyectaria como "presumido"? Pedirian pruebas? Quizas un dia de datos concretos en uno de mis blogs.
    Internet, Dinero, Tecnología, Tendencias, Dominios en fin…


    Si nos invitas a cenar el NYC nos creeremos las cifras que nos quieras dar. :comer:

    Redes inferiores en números a weblogssl parecen haberse vendido por 10 millones de €. Aunque quién sabe si se trata todo de puro marketing. :susurro::: el roce hace el dominio ::