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      CommentAuthorDiego Tobon
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2017 editado
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    How we purchased the domain for $40,000

    Hey Entrepreneurs,
    I'm Christopher Gimmer, one of the co-founders of Snappa - a SaaS app that helps non-designers create online graphics.
    About a year and a half ago I wrote a post in this subreddit about launching our beta which was well received. Since then, we've bootstrapped our way to $25k MRR and we just spent $40k to acquire the domain (we were using until now).
    After we purchased the domain, I couldn’t believe how many people were interested in the acquisition. In turns out that many founders were also trying to acquire a domain and wanted to know how the deal went down, how much we paid, and what we learned from the experience.
    Rather than going through the details with each person individually, I thought it would be more useful to share the entire story in a post. My hope is that other founders in a similar situation can get value from it (or those who may be in the future).
    So here’s the whole story of how we purchased the domain and why.
    Why we did it

    Some people would argue that we were doing just fine with and purchasing the .com was a waste of money. Doesn’t everyone type stuff in Google now?
    The reality is we were doing just fine. We had grown to $25k+ MRR without raising any money. So why did we care so much about a domain name?
    There’s a few reasons.
    1. Branding & Trust
    At the end of the day, .com will forever be the ultimate top-level domain (TLD). To this day, there are still plenty of people who don’t even realize that other TLDs exist.
    When you own the .com, you’re signalling to the market that you’re legit. And when people are paying you money to use your product, the more trust you can convey the better.
    With Snappa, many of our customers pay us an annual subscription. We want them to know that we’ll be around for years to come.
    As Joel from Buffer points out, most well-known companies all had “placeholder” domains for a long time before they got their actual name as their domain too:
    Square was
    DropBox was
    Facebook was
    Instagram was
    Twitter was
    Foursquare was
    But each one of these companies reached a level of scale where owning the .com was important. Otherwise, they would have used their placeholder domains forever.
    Since we’ve been around for nearly 2 years, we felt it was time to legitimize our company further by purchasing the .com.
    2. Avoiding Confusion
    Even though most people do in fact type things in Google, there are still a lot of people that don’t. A lot of these people will assume that web addresses end in .com.
    In fact, we received a few support requests from users saying that our app was down. It turns out they were entering as the web address (which used to lead to a blank page).
    Screenshot of support email
    I always thought to myself… how many people were doing the same thing?
    In addition to customers entering the wrong URL, we also noticed a few blogs and websites linking to us using the wrong URL. This means we were missing out on referral traffic and link equity.
    3. Growth Potential
    Last year I attended MicroConf in Las Vegas (which is a great conference by the way). One of the speakers was Peter Coppinger from
    During his talk, he told the story of how they purchased for $675k. I was floored…
    Then he threw up this slide.
    Teamwork's growth curve after the domain purchase
    It goes without saying that purchasing the .com wasn’t the only reason their growth exploded. It’s also worth noting that their old domain name was which was pretty horrible.
    However, there’s no denying the inflexion point that happened immediately after launching the new domain. Could the same thing happen to us if we purchased
    First contact

    After we launched our beta in the Summer of 2015, we were getting some really good traction. So in September 2015, I decided to reach out to the owner of to see if they would be interested in selling. I figured they’d want more than we could afford but figured it was worth a shot.
    As Buffer mentions in their acquisition story, there’s a variety of ways one could go about contacting a domain seller. Some tactics involve emailing from a Yahoo address, to hide your true identity to make yourself appear like a smaller company or letting a different entity altogether work on getting the domain.
    Luckily, we were a small company. I also felt that at some point in the negotiation I’d have to reveal my true identity anyways, so I didn’t put too much thought into deceptive tactics.
    Here’s the the first email I ever sent the seller. I used my real name and personal Gmail account.
    First email sent to seller
    A couple days later, my co-founder Marc and I were having lunch at a restaurant when my phone buzzed. It was an email from the seller.
    The body of the email contained a domain name transfer agreement. I scanned the document as quickly as possible and the first number I saw was $1,000. I literally jumped out of my chair and shouted. “WE’RE GONNA GET SNAPPA.COM! IT’S ONLY $1,000!”
    But when I actually read the agreement, I realized that $1,000 was not the purchase price. It was a penalty we’d have to pay if we broke one of the clauses.
    I then saw the actual purchase price…
    $79,500 USD. Ouch!
    At this point, we had 0 paying customers because we were still in beta. Naturally, we decided to put our dreams on hold.
    Second contact

    A month ago (February 2017), I heard the news that Noah Kagan spent $1.5M to acquire the domain. I thought he was crazy.
    Then I listened to his podcast episode where he talked about the acquisition. He mentioned that a good domain equals a legit company and it lets you own your brand and be the definitive source. Because so many other companies had ‘Sumo’ in their name, Noah wanted to position his company as the original, the de facto.
    As I reflected more on the purchase, I realized that Noah wasn’t crazy. In fact, I applauded him for such a ballsy move.
    I also learned two things from Noah that helped me acquire
    He didn’t take no for an answer. Noah was getting repeatedly shut down for 7+ years but his perseverance paid off.
    Noah didn’t pay the $1.5M all up front. He worked out a payment plan with the seller that made the acquisition price more manageable.
    Feeling inspired, I reached out again to the owner of on February 8, 2017 (One year and five months after my original email).
    Even though the original transfer agreement they sent me said the price was non-negotiable, I knew that just wasn’t true. So to get the ball rolling, I sent a low-ball offer of $10,000 USD to feel them out.
    Email sent to seller with $10k offer
    A few days later, I got a new domain name transfer agreement…
    … for $84,500 USD!
    A $5k increase from the previous year. Not looking good…
    Determined to negotiate, I fired back the following email.
    Email asking to negotiate
    The seller responded that they’ve already turned down another offer far above our original offer of $10k. They also asked if we’d consider a payment plan.
    Even with a payment plan, $84.5k was out of the question. So I fired back another offer and increased our offer to $20k.
    Email with $20k offer
    That same day, I received the following email.
    Email from seller with counter-offer
    Alright… now we’re getting somewhere.
    Real Negotiations Begin

    At this point, I called Marc and we had a lengthy discussion about how important it was to own and what was the maximum amount of money we’d be willing to pay for it. Considering how far apart we were with the seller, I felt like we had to give them our best offer to even get a chance of acquiring the domain.
    Remember that Snappa is 100% self-funded. We’re not sitting on a pile of cash that we raised from investors so we have to be very careful with how we spend our hard-earned cash.
    After talking with Marc, we agreed that $40,000 USD was the absolute most we wanted to spend on the domain. Also, we couldn’t afford to pay the $40k up front because it would put a serious dent in our cash flow. We needed to make sure we had adequate funds to cover all our costs in case of an emergency.
    I then fired off an offer of $40k USD with a 5 year payment plan. Once again it was turned down.
    Another counter-offer from the seller
    Even with a payment plan, $59.5k was still more than we wanted to pay and $50k upfront was out of the question. So I decided to stand strong and give the absolute best offer that we could.
    Email to seller with our best offer
    I had high hopes, but they came crashing down quickly when I received the final blow.
    Rejection email from seller
    I was pretty disappointed. But we just couldn’t justify spending that kind of money on a domain name as a bootstrapped startup.
    I also remembered an important tactic when it comes to negotiations…
    Be willing to walk away.
    And that’s exactly what I did. I stood firm and let the seller know that we couldn’t justify their asking price and that we’d carry on with our current domain name. They came back with one final knockout blow.
    Email from seller - they weren't budging
    It sucked. Over the next few days, I started coming to terms with the fact that we may never own
    Then out of the blue, 5 days after our previous exchange, I received the following email.
    Email from seller accepting our $40k offer
    We finally agreed on a purchase price of $40,000. The final deal terms were $20K paid up front with the remainder paid in annual instalments over the following 3 years.
    As soon as the DNS was changed and the agreement was signed, I wired over the first payment on March 1, 2017.
    Lessons Learned

    The entire process was very stressful. After our final offer was accepted, I couldn’t help but wonder if we were making the right decision. We certainly didn’t have a crystal ball that could tell us what the impact of having would be in the long run.
    But now that we’ve fully transferred over to our new domain, there’s no doubt in my mind that we made the right decision. It just feels right.
    As I look back on the experience, a few things key lessons jumped out at me, some of which I alluded to throughout the post but I think they’re worth repeating.
    1. There’s no such thing as non-negotiable. Every time I contacted the seller, I kept getting the same template with a fixed price that was non-negotiable. Even after submitting a few lowball offers, they still wouldn’t budge. Yet in the end, we were able to settle on a price that was less than half of their asking price.
    2. If you really want something, you have to be persistent. There’s no way this deal would have gone through if we weren’t persistent. Despite multiple offers being rejected, we kept trying until we succeeded.
    3. Be willing to walk away. Negotiating is all about leverage. If the person on the other end knows that you want something REALLY bad, they’ll make you pay for it. They only accepted our final offer after we made it clear that we weren’t going any higher.
    4. Be vulnerable. The truth is, we were a small startup. We didn’t have $84k to spend on a domain name. Without sounding like a charity case, we did try to drive the point across that we only had so much that we could offer.
    5. You can negotiate on more than just price. If we had to pay $40k up front, we wouldn’t have been able to make this deal. The payment plan is what made this feasible. If you’re negotiating something and you can’t justify the price, try to defer payments in order to ease the financial burden. In the case of domain names, the seller will still technically own the domain until they receive the final payment. Therefore, there’s zero risk on their part.
    Parting Thoughts

    Only time will tell whether or not the $40k investment yields a positive ROI. Then again, we may never know.
    But regardless of whether or not the investment pays off, we never have to worry about another business using That in itself is priceless. Now we can go back to building a kickass product!
    One more thing…
    Don’t let a domain name stop you from starting your business. If I had to rank the importance of a domain name when starting up, I’d give it a 3/10. Your preferred domain name will always be there waiting for you when the time is right.
    EDIT: Just wanted to clarify that the email exchanges are between myself and an account manager of the seller's company. I wasn't talking to a broker.
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2017
     # 2
    Gracias por compartir.Mi perfil Linkedin
      CommentAuthorDie Beste
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2017
     # 3
    Posted By: Diego TobonBOOYA!

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      CommentAuthorDomo Sapiens
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2017 editado
     # 4
    lo regalaron:bro:
    felicidades al comprador, marca instantanea...

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